VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.3] [Eva Kiss]

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varpep said:
In my current playthrough the only men my Lena is interested in other than Ian are Seymour and Axel. I did took the steps that Gicoo recommended and Lena was able to cheat without getting discovered. However, during sex with Ian on the first night when she arrives at the beach house, Ian remarks how cold she is and wonders if the "rumors Jeremy told him" were true. When in reality Jeremy never found out about Lea cheating in this playthrough. Also, at the end of the chapter, Ian and Lena break up as if they were in a FWB arrangement rather than a couple. Eva might need to iron this out in the next update.
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Hmm, this is odd. If Lena and Ian are a couple then, going by the code:
Python: 
## IAN LENA COUPLE
# IAN LENA PURE
    if ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis == False and gillian_stop and ian_cindy_sex == False and ian_cheating != 2:
// ...
# IAN LENA COUPLE CRISIS
    elif (ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis) or (ian_lena_couple and ian_cindy_sex) or (ian_lena_couple and gillian_stop == False):
// ...
## IAN LENA CASUAL
    else:
// ...
... you should be either directed to the "pure" Ian/Lena branch if Lena wasn't caught cheating, Ian moved on from Gillian, didn't fuck Cindy and doesn't intend to keep cheating on Lena, or be put in the "crisis" branch which should handle other cases.

Could you include a save from that game, after the truth/dare thing is concluded?
 
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Jeremy will tell Ian about any fuckery going on at the club, or the one he's personally involved in. So yes, the others will also trigger that,
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So Jeremy talks even if Lena's dating Mike but doesn't do anything at club, that's sad but I guess understandable considering they know each other but how does he knows about Lena fucking Mark or just flirting with Jack or others though? that doesn't make any sense. It basically kills cheating route for Lena, Ik Ian can deny Jeremy's accusations but even if he does that, he still has doubts regarding it throughout the entire trip thn later he can simply choose not to confront and let it go, that basically makes him a cuck although a reluctant one.
 
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So Jeremy talks even if Lena's dating Mike but doesn't do anything at club, that's sad but I guess understandable considering they know each other but how does he knows about Lena fucking Mark or just flirting with Jack or others though? that doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah, Mike is most likely bragging to other guys at the club about fucking Lena. For the other two, that value for Jack is only set if Lena gives him a bj or fucks him at the club; for Mark, he's a frequent club visitor and most likely brags about banging Lena, it's not like you can expect guys to keep discreet about this sort of things. Plus, iirc they arrange the hookup when Lena is working at the bar, so Jeremy is literally couple meters from them.
 
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Skylark21 said:
So Jeremy talks even if Lena's dating Mike but doesn't do anything at club, that's sad but I guess understandable considering they know each other but how does he knows about Lena fucking Mark or just flirting with Jack or others though? that doesn't make any sense. It basically kills cheating route for Lena, Ik Ian can deny Jeremy's accusations but even if he does that, he still has doubts regarding it throughout the entire trip thn later he can simply choose not to confront and let it go, that basically makes him a cuck although a reluctant one.
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People talk. Marcel, Mike, Jeremy and Ivy work at Blazer and tell each other a lot of who's fucking who.
Mike also knows that Lena slept with Ivy.
It's not clear with Mark but he seems to be buds with Mike and Ivy, so he likely brags about fucking Lena, as well.
 
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What are your favourite routes?
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Ian/Lena and cheating on her with Cindy or Alison. Maybe later with Louise.
Ian/Holly and cheating on her with Alison.
Ian/Louise hopefully develops if they get played by Lena/Jeremy.
Ian/Alison got stale, so unless Alison homewrecks Ians other relationships, its limp Ian demanding threesomes with Alison and Jeremy (potential black baby).
Ian/Cindy, bonus with Lena/Axel
Ian/Lena faithful, but Lena doesn't allow him to fuck her vaginally. No cucking with other man!
Ian/Holly is the best mushy vanilla romance
Ian/Gillian potentially if either Ian is a chad and Gillian (droped by Mike in favor of Lena) crawls back or if Ian is a whimp and crawls back to her
Ian/Minerva has potential if Ian dates other women

With Lena, its mostly fucking around, stealing Mike from Gillian, stealing Jeremy from Louise, stealing Wade from Cindy.
Cuck Ian is a bit overhyped, especially if Lena is a total slut, but the spiciest it is with Axel and if she is romantically devoted to Ian.
Also Lena/Stan if we just consider the pay pet route. Not the romance.
 
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Gicoo said:
Ian/Lena and cheating on her with Cindy or Alison. Maybe later with Louise.
Ian/Holly and cheating on her with Alison.
Ian/Louise hopefully develops if they get played by Lena/Jeremy.
Ian/Alison got stale, so unless Alison homewrecks Ians other relationships, its limp Ian demanding threesomes with Alison and Jeremy (potential black baby).
Ian/Cindy, bonus with Lena/Axel
Ian/Lena faithful, but Lena doesn't allow him to fuck her vaginally. No cucking with other man!
Ian/Holly is the best mushy vanilla romance
Ian/Gillian potentially if either Ian is a chad and Gillian (droped by Mike in favor of Lena) crawls back or if Ian is a whimp and crawls back to her
Ian/Minerva has potential if Ian dates other women

With Lena, its mostly fucking around, stealing Mike from Gillian, stealing Jeremy from Louise, stealing Wade from Cindy.
Cuck Ian is a bit overhyped, especially if Lena is a total slut, but the spiciest it is with Axel and if she is romantically devoted to Ian.
Also Lena/Stan if we just consider the pay pet route. Not the romance.
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Interesting and shows how different we players are. I prefer romance, sharing and swinging. Which is one reason I hope for a mushy HOT romance with wild Holly now. :)
Wild Holly and normal Ian could have a full "we belong together" romance with lots of potential how to spice it up! I think thematically this has more impact with a normal or shy Ian coupled up tightly with wild Holly. It could for example lead to both of them helping each other out of their shells.
As said before, due to Holly going wild for Ian to find her more desireable, I think that Holly´s wild streak will be finetunable by the player, what he likes and how far it goes.

Ian/Minerva also has some potential, if problematic to reach. Generally when it comes to romance, Ian´s best options are Alison, Holly and to a certain extend Lena (depends on how we play her part). These are the only girls who want Ian for "being Ian", for most of the others it is more about Ian being the first non-asshole boyfriend option (e.g. Cherry, Emma) or Ian being used for different reasons (e.g. Minerva, Cindy).
 
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These specific path variants simply show how many playthroughs are possible.
I have currently nine paths I play and save for.
Ian/Alison (full romance), Ian/Alison (full romance with threesome fun), Ian/Alison (romance/fuckbuddies, but also dating others),
Ian/shy Holly (full romance), Ian/encouraged Holly (full romance, with a trinity save variant too), Ian/wild Holly (full romance if now possible)
Ian/Lena (full romance), Ian/Lena (romance/open relationship, both some dating with others), Ian/Lena/Holly (trinity)

I generally couple up Emma/Perry (also gives boni for helping him), if my Ian is not with Lena or in an open relationship, she is with Seymour and/or Axel. I never pursue Emma and Cindy as Ian, never Jack as Lena. Normally Jess is with Dave (as it should be!).

What are your favourite routes?
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Ian/Lena pure path with some variations here and there on some saves - Yeah, I am a vanilla nerd!! :KEK:

Holly-Trinity.

Ian/Lena cheating, but both gave into commitment in ch 12 and Ian punishes her mercilessly. Made two saves here, where Ian still loves her and Ian is cold towards her.

There are other saves with different paths and mixed up but those 3 are my go to.
 
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SearingFive said:
Ian/Lena pure path with some variations here and there on some saves - Yeah, I am a vanilla nerd!! :KEK:
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Good for you, nothing wrong with that! :) As I wrote in the earlier posts, I prefer romance, sharing and swinging, so we both are a minority among the ORS players.:);)
As is glaringly obvious, a majority of players seems to strongly prefer cheating, cucking, NTR stuff. Not my cup of tea, but tastes are different.
 
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Hmm, this is odd. If Lena and Ian are a couple then, going by the code:
Python: 
## IAN LENA COUPLE
# IAN LENA PURE
    if ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis == False and gillian_stop and ian_cindy_sex == False and ian_cheating != 2:
// ...
# IAN LENA COUPLE CRISIS
    elif (ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis) or (ian_lena_couple and ian_cindy_sex) or (ian_lena_couple and gillian_stop == False):
// ...
## IAN LENA CASUAL
    else:
// ...
... you should be either directed to the "pure" Ian/Lena branch if Lena wasn't caught cheating, Ian moved on from Gillian, didn't fuck Cindy and doesn't intend to keep cheating on Lena, or be put in the "crisis" branch which should handle other cases.

Could you include a save from that game, after the truth/dare thing is concluded?
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Here is a save
 
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I agree with you on this. If your slutty Lena does someone in the Club, it will get around. Even if you do not get the talk with Jeremy or other scenes. If done at the club, Ian will learn about it sooner or later.
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I think if you have a bad relationship with Jeremy he won't tell you.
 
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Da¥e said:
I think if you have a bad relationship with Jeremy he won't tell you.
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It is possible, never had such a bad relationship with Jeremy, so I cannot say. But even if Jeremy does not tell/does not know about it, if Lena "screws around" in the club, the info WILL reach Ian one way or the other.
 
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Hi again, Pr0GamerJohnny , SearingFive , dontcarewhateverno and lucadiadis !
That word exists, I am rather surprised English which gobbled up romance language words like crazy did not take in this word as well. In my mother tongue it is a calque word from around 300 years ago, when French was the hot stuff language. Which is directly visible due the ending -ble, which does not exist in German word creation outside some dialectal nicknaming.
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Faible is "having a weakness for, a preference".:)

But back to the game, I agree with you that Eva seems to love stories with Bullies, losers and beta cucks, since even the girl-girl relationships in ORS are full of it. Sometimes it seems balanced outcomes are tacked on due to many players (like us) detesting this s...
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Didn't disagree. Some of us just assumed you were using a non-English word that foible was derived from which synonymously means the same thing. All good.
 
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I can't get the option to finger Lena while I'm putting sunscreen on her at the beach.

Does anyone have a backup before this action?
 
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Here is a save
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Alright, i see. You have a dirty cheater Ian who has decided to keep cheating, and it kinda slipped through the game's main switch cracks.

PilotLara seems there's a bug here that can mess up branching:
Python: 
## IAN LENA COUPLE
# IAN LENA PURE
if ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis == False and gillian_stop and ian_cindy_sex == False and ian_cheating != 2:
// ...
# IAN LENA COUPLE CRISIS
elif (ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis) or (ian_lena_couple and ian_cindy_sex) or (ian_lena_couple and gillian_stop == False):
// ...
## IAN LENA CASUAL
else:
// ...
the second clause doesn't include or (ian_lena_couple and ian_cheating == 2) that'd prevent the pure branch from firing, which causes this particular scenario (ian_lena_couple == true, ian_lena_crisis == false, gillian_stop == true, ian_cindy_sex == false and ian_cheating == 2) to fall through to "ian lena casual" branch, instead of "couple crisis" branch.

Additionally, this is not a bug, but the "pure" branch can be potentially entered while Lena has re-lapsed to affair with Axel in Ch.12 without Ian knowing. (with crisis flag false and Ian fully committed) Because this is secret from Ian this is fine, but there's no text variations in that branch to account for Lena being seemingly "cold" and distracted, the way the game handles this scenario earlier in the episode. Might be worth looking into, idk.
 
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ffive said:
Yes. Either not hooking up with Ian in the first place, or broke up with him. Lena also has to show some interest in Holly earlier:
Python: 
        "{image=icon_lust.webp}I'm willing to help" if (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_dating == False) or (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_over):
            $ v8_holly_sex = "lenaivy"
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Is there a way to get threesome with holly/ian being nerdy

But lena slutty flirting with holly and seduce them to threesome or does ian need sleep with both

Because this one guy theorise about a bitter sweet posibilitie with slutty lena potentially stealing holly but no idea how he got the threesome with non chad/fuckboy ian....
 
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mommysboiii said:
Is there a way to get threesome with holly/ian being nerdy

But lena slutty flirting with holly and seduce them to threesome or does ian need sleep with both

Because this one guy theorise about a bitter sweet posibilitie with slutty lena potentially stealing holly but no idea how he got the threesome with non chad/fuckboy ian....
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If i'm not mistaken you can have Ian/Holly as their own pair, with Ian not even really interacting with Lena. If Lena increases her lena_go_holly variable high enough and they end up kissing, Holly will bring that up with Ian when they're at the beach house. Ian has option to be fully receptive about it, and that should cause the trinity form automatically in the evening.

Alternatively, Ian can break up with Holly over it, which could effectively lead to Lena quite literally "stealing Holly" from Ian (if Lena and Holly then become a couple) as opposed to the three of them getting together.
 
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If i'm not mistaken you can have Ian/Holly as their own pair, with Ian not even really interacting with Lena. If Lena increases her lena_go_holly variable high enough and they end up kissing, Holly will bring that up with Ian when they're at the beach house. Ian has option to be fully receptive about it, and that should cause the trinity form automatically in the evening.

Alternatively, Ian can break up with Holly over it, which could effectively lead to Lena quite literally "stealing Holly" from Ian (if Lena and Holly then become a couple) as opposed to the three of them getting together.
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what are the important points to make for lena_go_holly

and keep her away from ivy???

or lena not allowed to sleep with certain people? heart options??
 
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what are the important points to make for lena_go_holly

and keep her away from ivy???

or lena not allowed to sleep with certain people? heart options??
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For lena_go_holly:
* in Ch.3 or 4, when masturbating (don't use dildo): "Think about Holly"
* in Ch.6, "Kiss Holly" during get-together with Ivy and Holly, then "Think about Holly" when masturbating later
* in Ch.8, "You are special" when talking with Holly at Lena's place, "Kiss Holly" a little later
* in Ch.10, "Nudge Holly" and then "Kiss Holly" during the photoshoot at Lena's place.

Ivy is blocked from getting Holly if Holly and Ian are dating, iirc. And if she wasn't then obv. you don't want Ivy to get involved if you want to have "nerd Holly and Ian".

Doesn't really matter otherwise what Lena is doing in her spare time in this setup.
 
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Hmm, were the conditions for Stan to confess to Lena increased or was it just a change of flavor text? In my recent run he hesitated and droped the topic.
Would be good to make him less creepy and propose to Lena only if she treats him very well.
 
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